Here are two publications from astrophysicists evaluating other possible factors affecting earth's climate. I believe that a thorough look at climate change should include consideraton of other factors. Everyone is stuck on CO2 as the only or predomimant factor of concern. Nothing as complex as climate could ever be influenced by just one factor. In fact the title of this paper by an astrophysicist is "No Experimental Evidence for the Significant Antropogenic Climate Change". https://arxiv.org/pdf/1907.00165.pdf
And for example, other factors and approaches are discussed by this paper coming out of Japan:
These papers were found with only the most cursory of reviews. I could list a host of other factors that I suspect might affect climate both long and short range...from La Nina-La Nino years to microscopic plastic globules in the ocean from human dumping (which was intended to be recycling) of plastic waste impacting phytoplankton production. Climate is extremely complex yet the "narrative" simplistically assumes one factor and then targets fossil fuels and farting cows. The environmental movement has quite the history of folks and regulators viciously attacking a "bad" target and setting sweeping restrictions only to find their laws and policies have simply shifted or caused other problems..for example, air pollution controls initially translated into greater water pollution impacts; electric vehicles over gas powered engines require drastic mining of rare earth chemicals; High Tech in Silicon Valley was considered "clean industry" until all the nasty chemicals were found in the underlying groundwater.
With US national debt now over $30 trillion, we really don't have the resources to continue to make sweeping wrong and possilby irrevocable decisions. With the refusal to study, consider, and carefully weigh and debate other influential factors, we are once again presuming we understand the triggers and that climate change is truly an insurmountable problem .
Some of the touted climate "science" is just left of phrenology and is total fear mongering.
Just take a trip to Utah or Arizona and look at millions of years of geology, locations of previous oceans, etc...and get a grip.
Astrophysicists out of University of Turku in Finland and Japan even make a case that anthropogenic causes are inconsequential relative to other factors, but there has been no debate or funding of careful study to really explore what factors affect climate nor to assess the possible impacts of crazy"climate" policies that may well bankrupt the US and many other poorer countries and impoverish citizens, and not do a thing to modify climate change.
I first heard simultaneous discussion and presentation of several climate change models--some predicting dire global cooling while some predicitig dire global warming --at Huxley Environmental College in 1974. Yoo hoo. Slightly different outcomes. It's not clear that predictive models and input data have improved much.
I understand the Biden Administration is looking at funding project ideas such as shooting little reflective particles up in the atmosphere to reflect (counteract) the suns rays. Egad. Such madness. Every time there is a volcanic explosion we see the unmitigated cooling effects. God help us.
Prediction of runaway population waiver from crushing compounding growth of humanity to a sudden precipitous drop of world population by 2050..the latter coming out of the UN some decades ago. Which is it? Yes, the actions by the WEF and others to control the "narrative", to limit investigation, debate and just plain dictate and control human action on this planet are frighteningly fascist.
Leslie, Thanks for subscribing to Climate Change Conundrum and for your comment.
Roger Pielke, Jr. recently noted that there are still about 20 "scary scenario" studies based on the implausible RCP8.5 published daily. These studies are solicited and funded by government agencies. They contribute nothing to the understanding of the climate and consume funds which could be used to do so.
Here are two publications from astrophysicists evaluating other possible factors affecting earth's climate. I believe that a thorough look at climate change should include consideraton of other factors. Everyone is stuck on CO2 as the only or predomimant factor of concern. Nothing as complex as climate could ever be influenced by just one factor. In fact the title of this paper by an astrophysicist is "No Experimental Evidence for the Significant Antropogenic Climate Change". https://arxiv.org/pdf/1907.00165.pdf
And for example, other factors and approaches are discussed by this paper coming out of Japan:
"Winter monsoons became stronger during geomagnetic reversal: Revealing the impact of cosmic rays on the Earth's climate" https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2019/07/190703121407.htm
These papers were found with only the most cursory of reviews. I could list a host of other factors that I suspect might affect climate both long and short range...from La Nina-La Nino years to microscopic plastic globules in the ocean from human dumping (which was intended to be recycling) of plastic waste impacting phytoplankton production. Climate is extremely complex yet the "narrative" simplistically assumes one factor and then targets fossil fuels and farting cows. The environmental movement has quite the history of folks and regulators viciously attacking a "bad" target and setting sweeping restrictions only to find their laws and policies have simply shifted or caused other problems..for example, air pollution controls initially translated into greater water pollution impacts; electric vehicles over gas powered engines require drastic mining of rare earth chemicals; High Tech in Silicon Valley was considered "clean industry" until all the nasty chemicals were found in the underlying groundwater.
With US national debt now over $30 trillion, we really don't have the resources to continue to make sweeping wrong and possilby irrevocable decisions. With the refusal to study, consider, and carefully weigh and debate other influential factors, we are once again presuming we understand the triggers and that climate change is truly an insurmountable problem .
Good luck on this. Agree.
Some of the touted climate "science" is just left of phrenology and is total fear mongering.
Just take a trip to Utah or Arizona and look at millions of years of geology, locations of previous oceans, etc...and get a grip.
Astrophysicists out of University of Turku in Finland and Japan even make a case that anthropogenic causes are inconsequential relative to other factors, but there has been no debate or funding of careful study to really explore what factors affect climate nor to assess the possible impacts of crazy"climate" policies that may well bankrupt the US and many other poorer countries and impoverish citizens, and not do a thing to modify climate change.
I first heard simultaneous discussion and presentation of several climate change models--some predicting dire global cooling while some predicitig dire global warming --at Huxley Environmental College in 1974. Yoo hoo. Slightly different outcomes. It's not clear that predictive models and input data have improved much.
I understand the Biden Administration is looking at funding project ideas such as shooting little reflective particles up in the atmosphere to reflect (counteract) the suns rays. Egad. Such madness. Every time there is a volcanic explosion we see the unmitigated cooling effects. God help us.
Prediction of runaway population waiver from crushing compounding growth of humanity to a sudden precipitous drop of world population by 2050..the latter coming out of the UN some decades ago. Which is it? Yes, the actions by the WEF and others to control the "narrative", to limit investigation, debate and just plain dictate and control human action on this planet are frighteningly fascist.
Leslie, Thanks for subscribing to Climate Change Conundrum and for your comment.
Roger Pielke, Jr. recently noted that there are still about 20 "scary scenario" studies based on the implausible RCP8.5 published daily. These studies are solicited and funded by government agencies. They contribute nothing to the understanding of the climate and consume funds which could be used to do so.
Thank you — all good observations
Thanks, John.